Dutch and Win Racing Review

Review by Will Brown

The Dutch and Win Racing service comes with the tagline “Guaranteed Racing Profits” and in what is quite an impressive sales page, they suggest that they can put up to £1000 in your bank every day of the week. Well, I could live with that!

Dutching, for those of you not familiar with the term, is the process of backing more than one horse in the same race. This is usually done with different stakes so as to ensure the same amount of profit is made if any of your chosen horses win. The down side of course is that if none of your horses win, the losses are larger than if you had only backed the one horse.

Dutch and Win is a service rather than a system, so you get the selections but not the methods used to get them. The current price is £39 per month and for that you get access to a hidden page which is updated daily before 1.30 PM with the selections for that day. Dutch and Win always select two horses in their chosen races, and advise you to back both in order to reach a target profit of your own choice. If either selection is a non runner or is priced below 6/4 then that race is considered a no bet.

A calculator is included to work out the stakes for you if you don’t have any software such as Bet Angel to do it automatically.

So that’s how the service works.  I found it fairly easy to use and the selections page was generally updated on time….but what about the results?

Well as there was no real advice given regarding staking , I decided to trial the service with a £1000 bank and aim for a fairly conservative profit of £20 per race. And for the first week things seemed to be going pretty well. I didn’t win in every race by any means, but there were enough winners to give an overall profit and I was optimistic about the service.

That was when it all started to go very wrong.

For the next three weeks, the service seemed to implode. There were several days when five or six races were selected and I didn’t get any winners at all, and of course as I was having to back two horses in each race, the losses began to mount up very quickly.

Despite what the sales page would have you believe, their selections are not all big priced outsiders. In fact on many occasions, all they were doing was picking the first and second favourites. Because of the shorter prices involved and the need to back two horses, I often found myself risking more money on a race than I stood to win – in other words, I was effectively betting odds-on.

When these races lose, you soon find the losses adding up rapidly and you need a very good run of winners to recover. Sadly, that good run was not forthcoming.

The other thing I should mention is the customer service – or more accurately, the complete lack of it. I made two attempts to contact the proprietors using the e-mail address they supply on the selections page, and both times my mail was completely ignored.

For me, there is absolutely no excuse for this. If you are paying for a service, the least you can expect is to have your mails answered in a timely and courteous manner. Too ignore your customers completely is unprofessional and leaves me with a very bad impression of the way in which this service is run.

You might be wondering, if the results were poor and the customer service was abysmal, why am I giving this service a neutral rating rather than failed?

Good question! The answer is that all tipping services can go through bad months, particularly in horse racing. I suffered big losses, but this may have just been a bad run and it may be that long term this service could prove profitable. The problem is that the results are not proofed anywhere, so there is really no way of telling this, therefore we can only judge based upon the significant losses sustained during our trial period.

My advice to the proprietors would be firstly to sort your customer service out, and secondly to start proofing your selections to somewhere like Racing Index so that you have some verifiable long term profit claims. Based upon my experience of the service, the claims made on the sales page look like they are extremely unliley to be true.

Verdict: Neutral

At the moment I could not advise anybody to join this service as my experience was not good. Long term proofed results and a major change in attitude to customers is required before this can be recommended.

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Review by Martin Richardson

The trading project is a method of trading on the betting exchanges and could be used to equal effect at Betfair or Betdaq.The manual advises you to focus on specific horses in specific races, and shows you how to look for certain factors which will influence whether prices are likely to reduce (steam) or increase (drift) before the start of the race.

The selection process is not entirely mechanical and is open to some degree of interpretation, so it is possible that different people could end up with different results. However, I completely accept that this is the nature of trading so is entirely expected.

The process is sensible and logical but some form reading is required and it may take a little practise in order to get it right on a regular basis. I think this is fair enough, and anyone new to trading would expect to have to spend a little practise time to hone their skills.

You are advised to enter a trade at a certain time and exit when the price has moved (hopefully in your favour) by a certain amount. Again, this is in my opinion a perfectly sensible approach.

There are worked examples in the manual with screenshots of what to look for before placing a trade, and how each particular trade was opened and closed.

Overall, I think the method is logical and could well make an overall profit. Whilst it would probably not be of much use to experienced traders, if you have never traded before then this may be a good enough starting point.

The main gripe that I have with this system is that it doesn’t do what the advertising claims it does

The sales page certainly makes some bold claims. Apparently this is “the most powerful Betfair system you will ever see”.

If the sales page is to be believed, you’ll be able to quit your day job after reading the manual! And most enticingly of all, it claims that profit will be guaranteed on every single race!

Are these claims true? In a word – no.

However this doesn’t mean that the system itself is no good – in fact it is probably the best piece of work I have seen from this author (although there have been some other previous efforts which offer very little in the way of competition!).

Unlike many of his previous manuals, I think that this particular system does have some merit, so it is a shame that the sales page attempts to write cheques that the system can’t cash. If he had made more honest and realistic claims I would feel a lot better about recommending this system.

Unfortunately though, there is no such thing as a guaranteed way to profit on the exchanges. Losses are certainly possible using this method, and at some point you will experience losses when trading – he even goes into when to cut out of a losing trade in the manual, so how can he claim on the sales page that profits are guaranteed?

Furthermore I certainly wouldn’t agree that anybody could quit their job on the strength of reading this manual.

Verdict: Neutral

This system is fairly well though out and has some merit. I would expect that anybody following the instructions would make a profit in the long term. However, the sales material is somewhat misleading and makes some claims that are simply not true, so I am unable to go as far as to recommend the system on that basis.

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Review by Martin Richardson

I have found it necessary to update this review following my experiences of the Sports Betting Champ system over the course of 2008 and 2009.

I first reviewed this system in December 2008 and on the whole, despite a couple of slight misgivings, my impressions were very positive. However I now feel there are more facts that you need to be aware of before deciding whether to purchase this system.

The Sports Betting Champ system by John Morrison actually comprises 3 systems for the major US sports – basketball (NBA), baseball (MLB) and American football (NFL). The sales page boasts a 97% win rate across all bets and promises “untold winnings for life”.

Well – don’t they all?

Now if you’re anything like me, the promise of a 97% win rate will have set some alarm bells ringing. To obtain a strike rate like this you’d usually either have to be backing at extremely low odds or laying at extremely high odds.

“A bet according to John Morrison is actually a series of 3 loss recovery bets”

Well in this case it’s neither – instead you use loss recovery in a cycle of 3 bets. You see, a “bet” according to John Morrison is actually a series of 3 bets with progressive staking for loss recovery – so if you lose bet A your stake for bet B increases to win back your losses on Bet A in addition to your normal stake.

If Bet B loses, your stake for bet C increases again to win back your losses for bets A and B in addition to your normal stake. If Bet C loses you go no further and it is counted as a loss. However, with the majority of bets being at odds on prices (i.e. less than 2.0), you should be aware that if bet C loses your total loss will be fairly significant.

Now this in itself is not necessarily a bad thing as long as the long term expectancy is positive. You may lose occasionally but the profits from the bets you win should more than compensate for the odd loss and still leave you in profit overall.

I have to say that over the 2008 NBA season I did end up with a decent profit from Sports Betting Champ. There were a couple of losing cycles but the vast majority won, usually without getting to bet C, and I made a profit overall which I was happy with.

In the 2009 NBA season the system did not encounter a losing cycle – but by that time I was no longer able to follow the system. Here’s why….

“The website promises free picks for life but the reality is very different…..”

My problems started in Spring 2008 just before the start of the baseball (MLB) season.

You see, John Morrison’s sales page promised that anyone buying his systems would receive the system selections by e-mail for life. This for me was a major selling point, as it would save plenty of time going through the US sports fixtures and identifying system selections.

You can imagine my surprise then when, a couple of weeks before the MLB season was due to start, I received an e-mail from John Morrison asking for a cheque for $100 in order to obtain his baseball picks for the season!

Naturally I queried this, reminding him that his Sports Betting Champ sales page stated that all picks would be free for life and – as neither of us was dead – that should still apply.

Eventually (after 3 attempts) I got a reply saying that I could have the picks for half price (only $50) for the season. I replied saying that I appreciated his offer but £50 is still not free, and that if he could not honour his agreement I would contact Clickbank for a refund of the full purchase price.

Needless to say this did the trick and I was added to John’s baseball picks list for free.

“Some of the results claimed on the Sports Betting Champ website are simply not true”

Now comes the next gripe and for me this is blatant false advertising. The Sports Betting Champ sales page now claims a 100% strike rate was achieved during the 2008 MLB season.

Now that is simply not true, there were some lost cycles – however towards the end of the season John Morrison decided to change the rules of the system, applying an extra filter which would have meant those lost bets would have been filtered out.

This is a clear case of back fitting as far as I am concerned and to now advertise a strike rate that was not achieved is very misleading to say the least.

As far as the Sports Betting Champ “free” picks are concerned, John Morrison has again asked for $100 for his basketball picks at the start of the NBA season.

“The free picks advertised are now virtually useless”

This time, the £100 gets you the picks at least 24 hours before the start of a game, whereas the free picks are sent just 30 minutes before the start meaning you have very little time to get your bets on. Very clever – John has obviously learned his lesson from the Baseball season!

This time we can no longer pick him up on the fact that he promised free picks because now he will still send them to you for free, but he’ll send them so late that they are virtually useless to you, so you need to send him another $100.

Well sorry John, but you won’t be getting a cheque from me.

My final gripe is the constant pushing of the US bookmaker BetUS, John Morrison clearly has a deal going with them and wants everybody who buys his system to sign up there. There’s no problem with that as such, but the guy just won’t seem to take no for an answer.

The problem is that I have found BetUS very problematic in the past, and there is absolutely no need for us to join them when we can place all the bets required by this system with our very own Bet365 including the point spreads bets required.

“There is no need to join BetUS”

Please – if you do buy this system, do not use BetUS unless you are prepared for a long and painful struggle to withdraw your winnings. You will be much better off using Bet365 instead.

Well that’s all my gripes out of the way and it is a shame to have to report negatively on certain aspects of this system and the behaviour of the seller, because the bottom line is that the system does work!

I did profit from the 2008 NBA season and I did profit from the MLB season (despite incurring a couple of losses that we now don’t seem to be counting according to John!)

I accept that had the filter been applied then the MLB season would have been 100% – but it wasn’t mentioned until after the season. Nevertheless if we look ahead, it could very well help to achieve a much better strike rate next year.

Overall I cannot actually recommend that you go and buy the Sports Betting Champ system due to the misleading sales material, shocking customer service and unscrupulous seller – however in terms of results, up until now I have to concede that it does work.

If you want to go ahead and purchase the Sports Betting Champ system then I see no reason why you won’t make a profit with it, but do be aware of the points I have raised above and don’t hesitate to question John should he try to demand any more $100 cheques from you in the future.

It’s amazing how quickly he will change his mind when you mention asking Clickbank for a refund!

Verdict: Neutral

The bottom line is that it has made a profit so far (albeit using increasing stakes at tiny odds). However I am deeply concerned by the integrity of the seller, or lack thereof. It’s not a write off by any means, but proceed with caution.

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